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Vegeta SSJ2 ( PreMajin ) vs Paikuhan
Topic Started: Apr 28 2012, 09:26 PM (2,416 Views)
Ryuuzaki Apr 28 2012, 09:26 PM Post #1
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 Who wins ?
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+ Clearin Apr 28 2012, 09:29 PM Post #2
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 I think SSj Vegeta would crap all over Pikkon. Pikkon is only a bit stronger than Goku from the Cell Games.
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Kruegs Outlandish Apr 28 2012, 10:08 PM Post #3
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Vegeta takes Paihukan from the Otherworld Tournament easily enough.

Vegeta gets broken by Movie 12 Paihukan, IMO.

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Pikkon (Otherworld Tournament) 29
Vegeta (Seven Years) 70
Vegeta (Fat Boo, Kid Boo, Janemba) 100
Pikkon (Janemba) 150


In Movie 12, Vegeta in Movie 12 is as strong as Vegeta against Fat/Kid Boo, and Goku became stronger than Vegeta by training with Paihukan in Otherworld.

UNIT CONVERSION (1 Goku At Boo = 23294 Mbp; Rounded to nearest Goku)
Goku (At Fat Boo)(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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23294 Mbp1 164700 Mbp2 329400 Mbp9 317600 Mbp


Goku (At Pikkon)(Super Saiyan 2)Pikkon (Maximum)Janemba
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Goku (At Janemba)(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2)Janemba (Second Form)(Maximum)Gogeta (Super Saiyan)
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Gogeta(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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Ryuuzaki Apr 28 2012, 11:06 PM Post #4
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 Goku SSJ2 ( M12 ) >> Vegeta SSJ2 ( M12 ) ? Is Goku so much strong ? I say they are equals or maybe Vegeta little strong , SSJ2 Goku never fight with Final Form Janemba.
And Paikuhan >> DSSJ2 Vegeta ? Maxim Paikuhan can be strong like Super Perfect Cell, my opinion.
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Paikuan extreme Apr 28 2012, 11:11 PM Post #5
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 Then you should have no problem with it since SSJ2 vegeta pre majin is just under or equal with spc, but still under SSj2 kid gohan at full power easy.

Pikkon with the burning shoot at the underworld tourney could already sock up SPC.

whether or not spc can power up in his form is debated but pikkon did take him out and then helped goku take out broly.

Pikkon<=vegeta in ssj movie 12

Janemba dodged instead of tanked his attacks, and even went to pains to take him out of the picture.

By the time pikkon gets to the buu saga he should be at about kid gohans strength level.

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Kruegs Outlandish Apr 28 2012, 11:14 PM Post #6
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Not sure about subbed versions of the movie, but in the dub, Vegeta ends up crying over the fact that Goku's gotten stronger while he's been dead; Vegeta doesn't get a body; him being back was a side-effect of Janemba's doing. Goku tells Vegeta that he is surprised that Vegeta was just as strong as he ever was even after being without a body for so long.

The only way I can see Vegeta crying over something like that is if Goku's gotten strong enough to make a noticeable gap. I'm not sure how large the gap is; I just used the Cell Games gap that I've always used.
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Paikuan extreme Apr 28 2012, 11:17 PM Post #7
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 actually king yemma DID send for vegeta, because he was worried, especially since pikkon was busy helping set yemma free.

They went to hfil and pulled him out. Crying about the infinite darkness and then crying about super saiyan 3.

baby janemba = majin buu as fat buu

Vegeta>Pikkon at SPC yes, i have pikkon just even with full power USSJ goku.

Movie 12 pikkon > ssj2 vegeta. Buu saga pikkon >SSJ2 vegeta pre majin.
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Kruegs Outlandish Apr 28 2012, 11:17 PM Post #8
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Paikuan extreme Apr 28 2012, 11:20 PM Post #9
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 im not sure if thats the Unabridged version or not, but it isnt that different from the japanese version.



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Kruegs Outlandish Apr 28 2012, 11:25 PM Post #10
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I don't have the Japanese Version, if anyone doesn't and knows what Vegeta and Goku are saying then that'd be a big help.
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no name Apr 29 2012, 01:17 AM Post #11
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My estimations

SSJ Goku at Cell Games-225
SSJ Goku kaioken-450
Paikuhan-425
Vegeta pre majin-450

Conclusion-Close fight,can go either way
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Nimbo-Bimbo lord of all noobs Apr 29 2012, 01:48 AM Post #12
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bizness86
Apr 28 2012, 10:08 PM
Vegeta takes Paihukan from the Otherworld Tournament easily enough.

Vegeta gets broken by Movie 12 Paihukan, IMO.

Code:
 
Pikkon (Otherworld Tournament) 29
Vegeta (Seven Years) 70
Vegeta (Fat Boo, Kid Boo, Janemba) 100
Pikkon (Janemba) 150


In Movie 12, Vegeta in Movie 12 is as strong as Vegeta against Fat/Kid Boo, and Goku became stronger than Vegeta by training with Paihukan in Otherworld.

UNIT CONVERSION (1 Goku At Boo = 23294 Mbp; Rounded to nearest Goku)
Goku (At Fat Boo)(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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150100400
23294 Mbp1 164700 Mbp2 329400 Mbp9 317600 Mbp


Goku (At Pikkon)(Super Saiyan 2)Pikkon (Maximum)Janemba
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1147150310

Goku (At Janemba)(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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174147588

Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2)Janemba (Second Form)(Maximum)Gogeta (Super Saiyan)
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1007402500033220

Gogeta(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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5713322068097272389
:o Why 74x multiplier for SSjin and 147x multiplier for SSjin 2?! I could debate 50x vs 10x multiplier, but how do you come up with those?

Multipliers aside, I agree with the relationships between most of the characters power-wise.
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Kruegs Outlandish Apr 29 2012, 03:52 AM Post #13
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Apr 29 2012, 01:48 AM
:o Why 74x multiplier for SSjin and 147x multiplier for SSjin 2?! I could debate 50x vs 10x multiplier, but how do you come up with those?

Multipliers aside, I agree with the relationships between most of the characters power-wise.

bizness86
Apr 28 2012, 10:08 PM
UNIT CONVERSION (1 Goku At Boo = 23294 Mbp; Rounded to nearest Goku)
Goku (At Fat Boo)(Super Saiyan)(Super Saiyan 2)(Super Saiyan 3)
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150100400
23294 Mbp1 164700 Mbp2 329400 Mbp9 317600 Mbp

:( ...

Numbers are rounded. So Movie 12 Goku being 1 is like saying Movie 12 Goku is between 1 and 1.5

1 < 74/50 < 1.5

<_< dood...
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Paikuan extreme Apr 29 2012, 05:34 AM Post #14
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 i think he is using numbers referring to max power. full Capabilities?

Not just the power in the form itself, but the maximum amount of power goku had at the time.

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+ Pyrus Apr 29 2012, 05:38 AM Post #15
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 It's in the Japanese version that Goku got stronger in Otherworld while Vegeta remained the same because he didn't have a body. What I don't get is why Vegeta wasn't given a body, but obviously every other villain got one. Maybe it was still in the body factory? Meh.

Anyway, Vegeta stomps a mudhole in Pikkon's candy *****.
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